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		<title>By: FrenchTower</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beware of websites selling commodity trading systems that guarantee high profits with minimal risks.

The CFTC has seen an increase in the number of Internet websites fraudulently promoting commodity trading systems and advisory services. These websites falsely claim, among other things, that advertised performance results are based on real trading when, in fact, the results are based on hypothetical trading.

No trading system can guarantee profits! The CFTC urges you to be skeptical when promoters of trading systems and advisory services claim that their products and services will earn high profits with minimal risks. Always remember that whether or not a trading system is used, commodity futures and options are typically high-risk endeavors.

Be warned that systems which trigger frequent trading signals as part of a day trading strategy can result in substantial commissions and fees.
What Are Commodity Trading Systems?


Commodity trading systems typically are computerized programs that signal members of the public when to buy and sell commodity futures and options contracts. Systems produce buy and sell signals based on mathematical formulas and are typically based on technical analysis of trading data (trading volume and prices), as opposed to fundamental analysis (analysis of economic factors such as supply and demand).

Trading systems that are based on technical analysis attempt to predict future price movements based on historical prices, price relationships, and price trends.
Hypothetical Trading Results Can Be Unreliable


Many trading system promoters advertise their systems by reporting hypothetical trading results.

Hypothetical trading results typically are based on trading simulations using historical price data or simulated &quot;real time&quot; computer trading.

To obtain these results, trading system promoters typically pretend that they traded futures contracts at market prices that occurred some time in the past. They then calculate the trading results that these purported trades would have achieved had they been placed, based on actual historical prices. These results often show impressive trading results and large net profits with only a few, small margin calls.
Limitations of Hypothetical Trading Results

    * Hypothetical results do not reflect the results of any actual trading whether they are based on historical data or simulated &quot;real time&quot; trading. In other words, there is no actual futures account, no actual investment, no actual trading, and no actual profits. The hypothetical results are purely the product of simulation.
    * 20/20 hindsight with historical results: since the trading systems that produced the results were not actually traded under real market conditions, the purported results fail to take into account market circumstances that affect traders and their decision-making process, such as anticipated news events that could have an impact on the supply, demand, or price of the commodity.
    * Real-time is not real: when marketing trading systems, some promoters claim that their systems have performed successfully in &quot;Real-time Trading.&quot; This means only that the system has been tested using a live data-feed, rather than being tested using historical market data.
      Remember though that in real-time trading, no trades have actually been placed in the market. Performance results based on real-time trading are merely another form of hypothetical results, with the same limitations.
    * Financial limitations: hypothetical results may not adequately take into account the ability of a trader to absorb trading losses or to meet margin calls. Trading systems assume that the trader can withstand all losses generated by the system and can meet resulting margin calls.

      It is much easier to absorb a trading loss on paper (hypothetically) than to do so in reality. Many traders find it unacceptable to sustain several consecutive trading losses and/or margin calls. Moreover, in an actual trading environment, a trader&#039;s financial condition may change over time and affect his or her ability to continue following a trading system.
    * Not tested under real market conditions: hypothetical trading results assume that futures contracts have been bought and sold at specific prices. Since these assumptions have not been subjected to actual market conditions, they may overestimate or underestimate the performance of a system.

      Some market conditions may make it impossible to execute a trade; for instance, many systems assume that stop-loss orders will be executed at their stop price. Under actual market conditions a stop-loss order might be executed at a better or worse price, or not be executed at all.

      Actual market conditions include bid/ask spreads which might not be reflected in the prices used in hypothetical trading.

      Moreover, the actual execution of a trade could impact the price paid, especially in less liquid or illiqui&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://forex.1441.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware of websites selling commodity trading systems that guarantee high profits with minimal risks.</p>
<p>The CFTC has seen an increase in the number of Internet websites fraudulently promoting commodity trading systems and advisory services. These websites falsely claim, among other things, that advertised performance results are based on real trading when, in fact, the results are based on hypothetical trading.</p>
<p>No trading system can guarantee profits! The CFTC urges you to be skeptical when promoters of trading systems and advisory services claim that their products and services will earn high profits with minimal risks. Always remember that whether or not a trading system is used, commodity futures and options are typically high-risk endeavors.</p>
<p>Be warned that systems which trigger frequent trading signals as part of a day trading strategy can result in substantial commissions and fees.<br />
What Are Commodity Trading Systems?</p>
<p>Commodity trading systems typically are computerized programs that signal members of the public when to buy and sell commodity futures and options contracts. Systems produce buy and sell signals based on mathematical formulas and are typically based on technical analysis of trading data (trading volume and prices), as opposed to fundamental analysis (analysis of economic factors such as supply and demand).</p>
<p>Trading systems that are based on technical analysis attempt to predict future price movements based on historical prices, price relationships, and price trends.<br />
Hypothetical Trading Results Can Be Unreliable</p>
<p>Many trading system promoters advertise their systems by reporting hypothetical trading results.</p>
<p>Hypothetical trading results typically are based on trading simulations using historical price data or simulated &quot;real time&quot; computer trading.</p>
<p>To obtain these results, trading system promoters typically pretend that they traded futures contracts at market prices that occurred some time in the past. They then calculate the trading results that these purported trades would have achieved had they been placed, based on actual historical prices. These results often show impressive trading results and large net profits with only a few, small margin calls.<br />
Limitations of Hypothetical Trading Results</p>
<p>    * Hypothetical results do not reflect the results of any actual trading whether they are based on historical data or simulated &quot;real time&quot; trading. In other words, there is no actual futures account, no actual investment, no actual trading, and no actual profits. The hypothetical results are purely the product of simulation.<br />
    * 20/20 hindsight with historical results: since the trading systems that produced the results were not actually traded under real market conditions, the purported results fail to take into account market circumstances that affect traders and their decision-making process, such as anticipated news events that could have an impact on the supply, demand, or price of the commodity.<br />
    * Real-time is not real: when marketing trading systems, some promoters claim that their systems have performed successfully in &quot;Real-time Trading.&quot; This means only that the system has been tested using a live data-feed, rather than being tested using historical market data.<br />
      Remember though that in real-time trading, no trades have actually been placed in the market. Performance results based on real-time trading are merely another form of hypothetical results, with the same limitations.<br />
    * Financial limitations: hypothetical results may not adequately take into account the ability of a trader to absorb trading losses or to meet margin calls. Trading systems assume that the trader can withstand all losses generated by the system and can meet resulting margin calls.</p>
<p>      It is much easier to absorb a trading loss on paper (hypothetically) than to do so in reality. Many traders find it unacceptable to sustain several consecutive trading losses and/or margin calls. Moreover, in an actual trading environment, a trader&#8217;s financial condition may change over time and affect his or her ability to continue following a trading system.<br />
    * Not tested under real market conditions: hypothetical trading results assume that futures contracts have been bought and sold at specific prices. Since these assumptions have not been subjected to actual market conditions, they may overestimate or underestimate the performance of a system.</p>
<p>      Some market conditions may make it impossible to execute a trade; for instance, many systems assume that stop-loss orders will be executed at their stop price. Under actual market conditions a stop-loss order might be executed at a better or worse price, or not be executed at all.</p>
<p>      Actual market conditions include bid/ask spreads which might not be reflected in the prices used in hypothetical trading.</p>
<p>      Moreover, the actual execution of a trade could impact the price paid, especially in less liquid or illiqui<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://forex.1441.org">http://forex.1441.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you search you&#039;ll find many reviews.  However, some reviews are probably not very helpful.  You still have to use your own judgement but generally go for the more popular ones.  Look for ones with good support.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you search you&#8217;ll find many reviews.  However, some reviews are probably not very helpful.  You still have to use your own judgement but generally go for the more popular ones.  Look for ones with good support.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: The Investonym Team</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Investonym Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We wrote an article on forex trading robots and forex signals which you can find here:  http://investonym.com/articles/51-currency-and-forex-fx/101-forex-trading-software-avoid-the-pain-of-researching-them-all

However, we also agree with the points put forward by MikeJ above.  We are very skeptical of the forex robots as well.  There are forex signal providers which give you technical indicators, but you must make the trade yourself.  In the signal system, you must know the market basics yourself and be able to understand the trades you are making (both buying and selling).  Overall, it is very difficult to make money in the FX market in the short term.  In the medium (many months) to the longer term (many years), trends may be identified and if you are patient, you may make some significant profits.  However, this is different from the forex robots (and to a large degree, the signal systems) which are focused on shorter term trades.  We are not saying that you can not profit in the short term, but it is quite difficult.

Do be skeptical of these systems and do perform thorough research before trading.  Our guide should be used together with your own best judgment.

Best regards.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://investonym.com/articles/51-currency-and-forex-fx/101-forex-trading-software-avoid-the-pain-of-researching-them-all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We wrote an article on forex trading robots and forex signals which you can find here:  <a href="http://investonym.com/articles/51-currency-and-forex-fx/101-forex-trading-software-avoid-the-pain-of-researching-them-all">http://investonym.com/articles/51-currency-and-forex-fx/101-forex-trading-software-avoid-the-pain-of-researching-them-all</a></p>
<p>However, we also agree with the points put forward by MikeJ above.  We are very skeptical of the forex robots as well.  There are forex signal providers which give you technical indicators, but you must make the trade yourself.  In the signal system, you must know the market basics yourself and be able to understand the trades you are making (both buying and selling).  Overall, it is very difficult to make money in the FX market in the short term.  In the medium (many months) to the longer term (many years), trends may be identified and if you are patient, you may make some significant profits.  However, this is different from the forex robots (and to a large degree, the signal systems) which are focused on shorter term trades.  We are not saying that you can not profit in the short term, but it is quite difficult.</p>
<p>Do be skeptical of these systems and do perform thorough research before trading.  Our guide should be used together with your own best judgment.</p>
<p>Best regards.<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://investonym.com/articles/51-currency-and-forex-fx/101-forex-trading-software-avoid-the-pain-of-researching-them-all">http://investonym.com/articles/51-currency-and-forex-fx/101-forex-trading-software-avoid-the-pain-of-researching-them-all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I too have searched for the same thing and I finally came across a real review site which lists the pro&#039;s and cons of each product reviewed, unlike most sites which just feature one product with nothing to assist in you decision.

They also ALLOW on the site for you to post your comments as well!

Check it out @ 

myforex911.com&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;myforex911.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I too have searched for the same thing and I finally came across a real review site which lists the pro&#8217;s and cons of each product reviewed, unlike most sites which just feature one product with nothing to assist in you decision.</p>
<p>They also ALLOW on the site for you to post your comments as well!</p>
<p>Check it out @ </p>
<p>myforex911.com<br /><b>References : </b><br />myforex911.com</p>
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		<title>By: MikeJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Forex robots&quot; seem to be the latest scheme to separate people from their hard-earned money. In my opinion, no &quot;robot developer&quot; in their right mind would sell their robot on the Internet if the robot was consistently effective -- they&#039;d start a fund and trade it themselves.

One further warning -- many &quot;fx products&quot; seem to be gaming Google&#039;s search engine, indirectly paying others to put up dozens if not hundreds of &quot;blogs&quot; that offer paid &quot;reviews&quot; encouraging you to buy the products in question. You should be very skeptical of any &quot;unbiased&quot; reviews of any FX products on the Web, especially if they have a link to the &quot;reviewed&quot; product, which indicates strongly that they are receiving a commission from the &quot;reviewer&quot;. (Google gets paid commissions, as well, when people click on the links on their search pages.)

Very few retail traders can open a &quot;real&quot; forex account that can trade against bank trading desks. Probably need $2,000,000 minimum or so to do that, plus be able to convince them that you&#039;re something big.

The &quot;forex&quot; accounts typically promoted on the Internet aren&#039;t the same.  In so-called &quot;retail forex&quot;, you aren&#039;t really trading foreign currencies directly; you&#039;re trading an over-the-counter contract issued by your &quot;broker&quot; (not really what I&#039;d call a &quot;broker&quot;, even, because they&#039;re your counterparty)..

See also these advisories from the CFTC:&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.cftc.gov/customerprotection/fraudawarenessandprevention/fraudadvisories/fraudadv_tradingsystem.html

http://www.cftc.gov/opa/enf98/opaforexa15.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Forex robots&quot; seem to be the latest scheme to separate people from their hard-earned money. In my opinion, no &quot;robot developer&quot; in their right mind would sell their robot on the Internet if the robot was consistently effective &#8212; they&#8217;d start a fund and trade it themselves.</p>
<p>One further warning &#8212; many &quot;fx products&quot; seem to be gaming Google&#8217;s search engine, indirectly paying others to put up dozens if not hundreds of &quot;blogs&quot; that offer paid &quot;reviews&quot; encouraging you to buy the products in question. You should be very skeptical of any &quot;unbiased&quot; reviews of any FX products on the Web, especially if they have a link to the &quot;reviewed&quot; product, which indicates strongly that they are receiving a commission from the &quot;reviewer&quot;. (Google gets paid commissions, as well, when people click on the links on their search pages.)</p>
<p>Very few retail traders can open a &quot;real&quot; forex account that can trade against bank trading desks. Probably need $2,000,000 minimum or so to do that, plus be able to convince them that you&#8217;re something big.</p>
<p>The &quot;forex&quot; accounts typically promoted on the Internet aren&#8217;t the same.  In so-called &quot;retail forex&quot;, you aren&#8217;t really trading foreign currencies directly; you&#8217;re trading an over-the-counter contract issued by your &quot;broker&quot; (not really what I&#8217;d call a &quot;broker&quot;, even, because they&#8217;re your counterparty)..</p>
<p>See also these advisories from the CFTC:<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://www.cftc.gov/customerprotection/fraudawarenessandprevention/fraudadvisories/fraudadv_tradingsystem.html">http://www.cftc.gov/customerprotection/fraudawarenessandprevention/fraudadvisories/fraudadv_tradingsystem.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cftc.gov/opa/enf98/opaforexa15.htm">http://www.cftc.gov/opa/enf98/opaforexa15.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
present ivybot is good but dont depend on bots ..do u know that a good trading platform can rise the success result.try to change ur platform 

forexplatformslist.com

good luck&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;forex trader (since 2000)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
present ivybot is good but dont depend on bots ..do u know that a good trading platform can rise the success result.try to change ur platform </p>
<p>forexplatformslist.com</p>
<p>good luck<br /><b>References : </b><br />forex trader (since 2000)</p>
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		<title>By: Shennh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shennh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ghoogle&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ghoogle<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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